[ANSS-netops] Verizon - Important information about transition to IPv6
Doug Neuhauser
doug at seismo.berkeley.edu
Fri Mar 10 18:46:35 UTC 2017
Chris,
Thanks for the info. I'll get an IPV4 provisioned cell modem
and try this out. AFAIK, UCB has IPV6 support, although I have
not yet used this.
The other question will be whether the Cisco RV042 VPN routers can
do this mix of IPV6 enpoints and IPV4 phase2 policies, or whether
I need a different central site router.
I think you are using Multitik routers. If so, what models do you
use for central site and end points? Are you happy with them?
- Doug N
On 03/10/2017 10:35 AM, Christopher Bruton wrote:
> Hi Doug,
> I have not tested this yet but I believe it is possible. You would
> define your phase1 peers with their IPv6 addresses, then define your
> phase2 policies to tunnel your IPv4 networks. We want to get our
> hands on an IPv6-addressed cell modem so we can test stuff like this.
> It's also complicated by the fact that Caltech has no plans to
> support IPv6 in the foreseeable future, so we will have to rely on
> third-party providers for our IPv6 access.
>
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 10:18 AM Doug Neuhauser <doug at seismo.berkeley.edu <mailto:doug at seismo.berkeley.edu>> wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> At the BSL we are currently using IPSEC VPN tunnels between a cell modem
> router at our seismic sites and a central site router.
>
> If our acquistion system also wants to remain in IPV4 address space,
> can the IPSEC VPN tunnels between the 2 public IPV6 addresses of the routers
> be defined to tunnel IPV4? IE can you define an tunnel for IPV4
> traffic using IPV6 endpoints? Or is this done by doing NAT on both ends?
>
> Let me know if my question is not clear.
> Thanks.
> - Doug N
>
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> From: Christopher Bruton <cpbruton at gps.caltech.edu <mailto:cpbruton at gps.caltech.edu>>
> To: "Meremonte, Mark" <mmeremonte at usbr.gov <mailto:mmeremonte at usbr.gov>>, "Croker, David" <croker at usgs.gov <mailto:croker at usgs.gov>>
> Cc: NetOps <anss-netops at geohazards.usgs.gov <mailto:anss-netops at geohazards.usgs.gov>>
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> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 18:07:34 +0000
> Subject: Re: [ANSS-netops] Verizon - Important information about transition to IPv6
> Mark, that is exactly right. Routers, modems, and other IPv6-enabled equipment should generally be able to translate public IPv6 addresses to private IPv4 addresses. I've attached an example diagram showing how an IPv6-addressed acquisition server could connect to an IPv4-only datalogger behind an IPv6-addressed cell modem. One could imagine similar NAT taking place on the seismo lab side if the acquisition server itself does not support IPv6.
>
> IPv6 NAT Example.png
>
> Caltech has been working on adding VPNs to our field data connections - this would be an alternative to using NAT. The public VPN endpoints may have IPv6 addresses, but they connect two IPv4 networks together. So neither the acquisition server nor the datalogger need to support IPv6.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 11:05 AM Meremonte, Mark <mmeremonte at usbr.gov <mailto:mmeremonte at usbr.gov>> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave et al,
>
> What about the case where use private IP side of cell modem to interface with logger using the IPv4 while the public side uses the IPv6? I do not think the private side will require the IPv6.
>
> Then there are those who use data acquisition system such as EW that does not currently support IPv6. But Paul Friberg has recently sent out notice that ISTI is working with USGS to support IPv6 in EW 8.0; but no time line for this completion as of yet.
>
> Is it possible for DMZ servers (public - intranet interface) to have ability to translate a public IPv6 to an intranet IPv4 to interface with data acquisition software that does not support IPv6?
>
> Mark
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> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Croker, David <croker at usgs.gov <mailto:croker at usgs.gov>> wrote:
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> Just in case you didn't get the memo.
>
> As Jeff Brody in Menlo says,
> "
> Receiving data from instruments connected to v6-addressed modems will require these systems to also have v6 addresses.
>
> It may be helpful to get a cell modem configured with a v6 address, as soon as possible, to start working on end-to-end connectivity. USGS Menlo campus only has v6 addresses available for DMZ systems. Expected to be supported campus-wide later this year.
>
> An example v6 address: 2001:4888:8002:3007:a0:d:0:4
> "
>
> Dave
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