[ANSS-netops] RFI stepping on sensors and data loggers
Mark E. Meremonte
meremonte at usgs.gov
Sun Feb 28 16:36:51 UTC 2010
Hi All,
Well I have been seeing these steps (or temporary offsets) off & on
for a couple of years. I thought they were only seen on the older
Applied MEMS accelerometers. We had this problem in a couple of the
MEMS used in the Wells, Nevada, deployment. After the deployment I
sent the MEMS (5) in for repair Fall 2009. The explanation was that
some contacts inside the MEMS were "dirty". They were
cleaned. After I received them back I checked them out and they all
appeared to not have the steps. The generation of Applied MEMS
should not have this trouble I was informed.
I sent some of these systems to Am Samoa. On their return a couple
of them have the steps again. Below is a plot of one of them with
steps happening quite frequently. This system had no communications
with Ethernet record disabled but the RT-130 TCP/IP stack power was
left set to "on". Not sure if this has any connection but I doubt
it. I should test it. Here is the plot:
Emacs!
MArk
At 22:03 2/27/2010, Dave Drobeck wrote:
>We definitely have seen it on Episensors and the Geotech PA-23. Problem
>seemed to be solved by making sure the sensors have well regulated power, but
>now we seem to be seeing it (at about 30 counts only) even with regulated
>power in a few cases. We've not had time to investigate that yet. In the
>Geotech case there was no question it was related to the Freewave radio
>transmitting and briefly pulling down power as we could vary the size of the
>data packet and the noise tracked perfectly with the radio transmitting.
>Installing the regulator took care of it.
>Dave
>
>On Thursday 25 February 2010 05:48 pm, Don Farrell wrote:
> > Hello to all,
> > Are there any networks that are seeing electronic stepping on
> > velocity or acceleration sensors and data loggers? So far the
> > Kinemetrics EpiSensors are the most vulnerable with one of the
> > triaxial directions sometimes showing a greater amplitude. Most
> > problems are with Nanometrics HRDs with Episensors, Ref Tek
> > 130-ANSS/02/6 data loggers with Mark products L4s and some broadband
> > sensors. Freewave radios seem to be the cause of most of the problems
> > but paging transmitters and SCADA are possible sources. A cell modem
> > with a Ref Tek twenty feet underground causes stepping on the MEMS
> > sensors. A recent switch to a Freewave FGRplusRE model resulted in
> > stepping on one channel of a K2 and on an external vertical Mark
> > Products L4. Ferrite cores rarely solve the problem. A separate
> > solar panel and battery to power the external sensors can eliminate
> > or lower the amplitude of the steps. In a recent experiment a test
> > box with a 5 Hz sine wave output into an HRD showed stepping.
> > Shorting the inputs in the test box still showed stepping on the HRD
> > channels. If you have seen this problem do you have any additional
> > ways of eliminating it? Seismograms and PSD plots are attached.
> > --
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