[EHPweb] FW: Earthquakes missing from new CA webpages?

David Oppenheimer oppen at usgs.gov
Thu May 13 05:53:24 UTC 2010


The recent change to eliminate M<1 quakes from the recenteqs page is
confusing monitoring of volcanic unrest and making it difficult to monitor
seismicity in the SAFOD (see below). Moreover, it will also make it
difficult to recognize remotely triggered quakes. 

I initially gave my blessings to this change, but now want to return to the
old rule of posting all quakes with M>0.  If our systems cannot handle this
additional amount of earthquakes during peacetime, we've got serious
problems that we need to address.

I also think we erred by not advertising this change and soliciting
comments. 

-David

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David Oppenheimer                   office:650.329.4792
U.S. Geological Survey              fax:   650.329.4732
345 Middlefield Road.-MS 977    email: oppen at usgs.gov
Menlo Park, CA 94025


-----Original Message-----
From: William Ellsworth [mailto:ellsworth at usgs.gov] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:12 AM
To: oppen at usgs.gov
Cc: 'Jim Luetgert'; 'Scott Haefner'
Subject: Earthquakes missing from new CA webpages?

Hi David,

In trying to track down a SAFOD earthquake this morning, I went to the new
Parkfield page
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqscanv/FaultMaps/Parkfield.htm
l to find its location and magnitude.  Much to my surprise, it was not
there, as it was well recorded by HRSN, etc.

I next went to the NCEDC catalog search page and much to my relief found the
event:

ate       Time             Lat       Lon  Depth   Mag Magt  Nst Gap  Clo
RMS  SRC   Event ID
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------
2010/05/12 03:54:34.25  35.9703 -120.5547   2.88  0.74   Md    9 124    1
0.14 NCSN   71391480

Is it possible that there is a rule that prevents M < 1 events from
appearing on the Parkfield page (or all other CA pages for that matter)?

If so, it needs to be changed, as I depend on being able to find them.

Personally, I would prefer to have the old style page continue, as it
conveniently listed the events along with the map.

Thanks,

Bill

___________________________________________________________________________
William L. Ellsworth
Earthquake Science Center
U.S. Geological Survey, MS-977 Office 1-650-329-4784
345 Middlefield Road Fax    1-650-329-5143
Menlo Park, CA  USA  94025 e-mail ellsworth at usgs.gov
___________________________________________________________________________



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David Oppenheimer                   office:650.329.4792
U.S. Geological Survey              fax:   650.329.4732
345 Middlefield Road.-MS 977    email: oppen at usgs.gov
Menlo Park, CA 94025

From: William Ellsworth [mailto:ellsworth at usgs.gov] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:24 AM
To: 'Margaret T Mangan'
Cc: 'David P Hill'; 'David R Shelly'; 'David Oppenheimer'; 'Andrew M Pitt'
Subject: RE: Mammoth Mountain seismicity update

Hi Maggie, 

I made an unhappy discovery this morning that the new webpage for Parkfield
earthquakes no longer displays or lists M < 0 earthquakes.  This is also be
happening for the Long Valley page and might explain why Mammoth Mountain
looks so quiet in May.

The current Long Valley map only lists 8 events, all M>= 1.  I went to
http://www.ncedc.org/ncedc/catalog-search.html and did a manual search for
the past 7 days for the Long Valley map area.  The search returned 27
earthquakes:

Date       Time             Lat       Lon  Depth   Mag Magt  Nst Gap  Clo
RMS  SRC   Event ID
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------
2010/05/06 00:50:56.71  37.6147 -119.0413   5.20  0.10   Md   10 158    1
0.03 NCSN   71388095 
2010/05/06 06:02:58.43  37.6217 -119.0407   4.85  0.14   Md    9 148    1
0.04 NCSN   71388105 
2010/05/06 08:56:57.91  37.6252 -119.0380   4.80  0.30   Md   12 147    1
0.04 NCSN   71387980 
2010/05/06 11:46:28.03  37.6358 -118.9445   7.94  0.49   Md   10  99    2
0.03 NCSN   71388020 
2010/05/06 17:55:26.79  37.6345 -119.0433   4.79  0.22   Md   11 161    1
0.04 NCSN   71388155 
2010/05/07 08:00:32.32  37.6175 -119.0408   5.20  0.05   Md   13 144    1
0.04 NCSN   71388580 
2010/05/07 09:29:55.53  37.6440 -118.9547   7.25  1.35   Md   32  43    3
0.06 NCSN   71388475 
2010/05/07 11:20:25.77  37.9947 -118.7275   7.01  1.00   Md    7 113    3
0.04 NCSN   71388510 
2010/05/08 01:34:02.72  37.6260 -119.0448   5.01  0.13   Md    9 159    1
0.04 NCSN   71388945 
2010/05/08 05:24:56.09  37.6232 -119.0448   4.96  0.69   Md   11 157    1
0.04 NCSN   71389040 
2010/05/08 06:18:27.33  37.6308 -119.0467   5.18  1.48   Md   24 159    1
0.04 NCSN   71389075 
2010/05/08 18:56:18.65  38.2112 -118.6878   2.53  1.73   Md    7 207   17
1.87 NCSN   71389435 
2010/05/09 12:57:06.77  37.6252 -119.0457   4.94  0.15   Md    8 161    1
0.03 NCSN   71390725 
2010/05/09 15:32:22.21  37.5868 -118.8538   8.54  0.64   Md   17 126    2
0.07 NCSN   71390030 
2010/05/09 15:34:58.32  37.5890 -118.8545   9.10  0.60   Md   18 125    2
0.08 NCSN   71390040 
2010/05/09 23:55:03.16  37.6465 -118.9542   6.63  0.88   Md   19  50    3
0.05 NCSN   71390320 
2010/05/10 04:38:28.59  37.6245 -119.0455   5.04  0.26   Md   13 159    1
0.05 NCSN   71390510 
2010/05/10 06:05:28.32  37.6210 -119.0197   4.79  0.33   Md   17 117    1
0.05 NCSN   71390555 
2010/05/10 09:49:10.46  37.6560 -118.9118   5.22  0.76   Md   17  86    1
0.05 NCSN   71390615 
2010/05/10 10:11:33.19  37.6577 -118.9052   5.62  1.22   Md   27  62    0
0.06 NCSN   71390635 
2010/05/11 06:30:04.44  37.6212 -119.0418   5.34  0.19   Md    8 149    1
0.03 NCSN   71391205 
2010/05/12 04:12:39.32  37.6238 -118.7515  10.61  1.56   Md   20  86    8
0.04 NCSN   71391505 
2010/05/12 04:51:07.49  37.6320 -118.7548  10.28  0.67   Md   13 104    7
0.06 NCSN   71391520 
2010/05/12 05:04:05.07  37.6178 -119.0413   4.94  0.15   Md   12 145    1
0.04 NCSN   71391530 
2010/05/12 05:15:31.93  37.6273 -119.0135   5.73 -0.07   Md    8 118    2
0.03 NCSN   71391725 
2010/05/12 06:11:12.87  37.6142 -118.9225   4.78  0.44   Md   17 134    1
0.04 NCSN   71391560 
2010/05/12 11:06:44.48  37.6403 -119.0468   5.87  1.01   Md   18 170    2
0.05 NCSN   71391635 


Clearly, this has to be fixed. Soon!

Bill
___________________________________________________________________________
William L. Ellsworth
Earthquake Science Center
U.S. Geological Survey, MS-977 Office 1-650-329-4784
345 Middlefield Road Fax    1-650-329-5143
Menlo Park, CA  USA  94025 e-mail ellsworth at usgs.gov
___________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________
From: Margaret T Mangan [mailto:mmangan at usgs.gov] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 1:20 PM
To: David P Hill; David R Shelly
Cc: Bernard A Chouet; Phillip B Dawson; William Ellsworth; William C Evans;
Thomas L Murray; John C Eichelberger; Andrew M Pitt; David Oppenheimer
Subject: Mammoth Mountain seismicity update

Last week kinda quiet, but so far 2010  is comparable to upswing
characterizing the latter part of 2009 

  
_________________________
Margaret T. Mangan, PhD
Scientist-in-Charge
Long Valley Observatory
Volcano Science Center
U.S. Geological Survey
345 Middlefield Road, MS 910
Menlo Park, CA  94025   USA

telephone: (650) 329-5738
fax: (650) 329-5203
email: mmangan at usgs.gov



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