[ANSS-netops] ANSS-netops Digest, Vol 44, Issue 3

Greg Steiner vlf at cablerocket.com
Sat Feb 9 15:00:01 UTC 2013


I am curious as to what the cellular providers are saying about 
availability of their networks after a natural disaster. I am not 
talking about cell sites that are destroyed in a disaster, but effects 
arising from abnormal call volume. From what I have seen up here there 
are always widespread reports that cellular calls don't go through 
regularly after a tornado. It seems everyone has natural tendency to get 
on the phone to check on people in the affected area and this clogs up 
the network. Is cellular modem traffic handled with a different 
priority? Will you find that data from your sites is not available  when 
you need it the most? does anyone have experience with these types of 
issues?
Greg Steiner
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>     1. Re: Cell modem? (Antonio Sanchez)
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> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:45:43 -0600
> From: Antonio Sanchez <a.sanchez at reftek.com>
> To: Philip Crotwell <crotwell at seis.sc.edu>
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> Subject: Re: [ANSS-netops] Cell modem?
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> Hi All,
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> A 5 GB data plan will suffice,  6 channels at 100 SPS,  gain 1,  with a c0
> compression will be around 3Gb a month and at c2  about  half of that for
> quite places.  We have AT&T and Verizon plans.
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> For real numbers,  I can mention that  we are running the following setup
> in the field for more than a year now :  6 Channels( First three channels
> at highg gain),  100 SPS, c2 and our daily usage is around 120-140 Mb for a
> very noisy station and 60-80 Mb for quieter stations.
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> I asked around about the c0 and c2 mystery,  back  in the 80's with the 72
> Series  we called our compressed data c0 (C and  Zero) it was a Hex value,
>   very similar to CO for compressed,  that's was probably the only
> compression we could talk about back then and there was no need to say
> Steim1,  just Steim compression.   Along the way we did another c1
> compression for "specific reasons" and then Steim2 in which case we called
> it c2.  So users know about c0 and c2 and don't worry about c1 and nothing
> beyond c2 for now.
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> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Philip Crotwell <crotwell at seis.sc.edu>wrote:
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>> We have been doing 3 x 100sps from refteks over cell modems with no data
>> volume problems and accidentally had 6 x 100 sps at one station for a
>> while. It came in fine with no "over the gigabyte limit" issues. I think we
>> have 5Gb/month caps as well, on verizon and AT&T.
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>> Using compression on the refteks helps alot, so use either CO or C2, but
>> be aware that C2 for a very quiet station can pack more samples into a
>> reftek packet than will fit into a tracebuf, resulting in the tracebuf
>> being booted out of the system. For most normal stations this shouldn't be
>> an issue, and in the cases where it is you can use CO or can set the gain
>> to x32, or both.
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>> Philip
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>> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Doug Given <given at caltech.edu> wrote:
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>>>      Our real-world numbers from 6-channel Q330s (Steim 2 compression)
>>> show volumes of about 3.2Gb/mo or less. We have exceeded the 5Gb/mo limit
>>> when there is some pathology at the station that causes lots of resends. So
>>> far our carrier, Verizon, has not dinged us for any overages.
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>>> On 2/8/2013 1:53 PM, James H Bollwerk (jbollwrk) wrote:
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>>>   Just getting into the cell modem game and need help.****
>>>
>>> We?ll be Streaming 6 x100 sps from a RT130-01/6 with a Raven XE (ATT
>>> provider).  ****
>>>
>>> Our university plan will allow 5GB per billing cycle.  With compression
>>> that should work.****
>>>
>>> Does anyone have real world data usage numbers?****
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